Welcome to the new/old DukkhaGirl
0After my blog was hacked, moved all my posts over to a new host, new URL…but I missed my old template and blog format. So here it is, I’ve recreated it. Most of the recovered posts from my prior blog are here. I’ve moved all the quotes over to my other blog, This is Zen. I intend to keep DukkhaGirl as my personal practice, and primary, blog. I intend to post more informational stuff and texts, resources, etc. at This is Zen.
Recovering from a hack: New blog, same old stuff, so far
1Am I an optimist or a pessimist? Is the glass half full or half empty? Is this a new beginning for and a new re-commitment to my blog, or is this a total failure on my part. I had every intention of coming back to, and working on what is now my “old” blog (DukkhaGirl.com, now redirecting to this site). But, I took some time away, started riding my bike, getting in better shape, trying my hand at fiction writing, and spending less time on the internet, less time on Facebook, Twitter, the blog, etc. But while I was away, the gremlins otherwise known as hackers broke into my site and hacked away, leaving an “online banking” phish as DukkhaGirl’s front page. I had no idea of this until I got a call from my web host, who, as I’ve since found out, isn’t well regarded for their customer service or security. By that time Google had blacklisted me as an unsafe site, and when I went to clean the site up, I had multiple errors preventing me from accessing my own admin panel. My last database backup being old, and the new database having some screwed up elements in user settings, I was lucky to be able to salvage the posts, categories and comments from my database, and this site is the result (hosted at a better web hosting provider). Maybe I’m a little too attached to the blurbs I’ve written, but I have some trouble letting go. I am working on it
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So, I’m not sure what this site will be, yet, probably more of the same. And I have a lot of re-creating to do. Until then, this site will be kind of messed up and disorganized for a while. And maybe I’ll concentrate more on writing (I had a lot of pending posts to finish) rather than coming up with new site headers every few months. Maybe. Thank you to everyone who read and commented on my posts at DukkhaGirl.com (your comments probably made it over here). Thank you to my many recent Twitter followers (I plan to edit my Twitter account and get back to doing some Tweeting).
CJ (formerly Perplexity)
Chant Like a Third Grader
0“Kan-ji-zai-Bo-sat-su-gyo-jin-han-nya-ha-ra-mi-ta…”
Looking back, I think I first became interested in Buddhism because of the meditation practice. Being a fairly anxious type, I hoped that meditation would help me be calmer and not feel so scared all the time. I wanted to be able to throw myself into life completely, not listen to that constant nattering nabob of self-negativism that seemed to live in my head and evaluate every little thing I did as it was being done. So I meditated. And started reading about Buddhism. So I learned about the other aspects of Buddhism, the philosophy, the ethics, and I learned that I…needed a Sangha.
Living in a big city at the time, I was in the (fortunate?) position where one could practically go “sangha shopping” – there were so many groups around, it made choice difficult. I started going to the Tibetan center that was less than a mile from my house. There, yes, I encountered meditation classes, classes on Buddhism, but also…chanting. Oh, the chanting! In this case, it was chanting, “Om mani peme hung” on a mala. Later I would visit Zen centers and encounter chanting that ranged from the robotic monotone of Rinzai Zen, to the more melodic chanting I encountered at a Korean center, to something that made me think I was in a Sunday church service 1. But it seemed that chanting was a constant I could not avoid. With the exception of the Vipassana groups, chanting seemed to be a given if I wanted to participate in a Buddhist sangha.
After years of returning to solo meditation practice 2, I would again return to sitting with a Rinzai group. And, of course I,again, encountered chanting. In Japanese. In a language I don’t understand, but am making some effort trying to learn. Oh, why all this chanting? Why couldn’t I just sit zazen, listen to a talk, and have some tea, and be done with it? What was the point of robotically intoning these incomprehensible syllables, and worse – doing it badly.
I was very tentative about this chanting thing. I worried that I was off-key, that I wasn’t pronouncing things correctly, that my voice was bad. I seemed to recall every little criticism everybody had ever given me about my singing – even though this chanting couldn’t exactly be called singing. I imagined that I sounded like Elmo, or a frog. I found myself chanting the Lotus Sutra at 6 AM once thinking that my tongue felt like lead in my mouth. Of course, the truth is that, most likely, nobody was giving my “bad” chanting much consideration. At first I quietly mouthed along.
But, outside of the zendo, I started thinking about all this chanting. And I remembered myself as an eight year old who would talk friends into singing with me for show and tell at school. Later, in middle school, a friend of mine would recall, “You’d get up there with someone and they’d be singing really quietly, and you’d be really, really loud…” The point is that I didn’t care. I didn’t worry about how I sounded (I think I thought I sounded great), I wasn’t worried about my volume, or my being on key, or what everyone was thinking – I just got up there and sang.
I think that this is why many religious traditions say we should be like children – both Jesus says that one won’t enter the kingdom of heaven (which, in my interpretation means something akin to enlightenment) unless he becomes like a child, and, I believe, the Buddha also said something about being childlike, though I can’t find the exact quote or source right now. When we are children, we have the ability to just throw ourselves into life completely, into whatever we are doing. But as we grow up, we tend to lose that ability and become separate from our activities. Our Zen practice, hopefully reduces that separation once again, allowing us to be like children in the activities that we do.
It doesn’t matter what we chant – I’m reminded of the Korean Zen master Seung Sahn, who said that chanting Coca Cola, Coca Cola was OK if you kept a clear mind. The important part is that, when we chant, we let go, we become like children, we throw ourselves into it and just chant. That is the point of all this chanting. So, when you chant…
Open your mouth.
Get out of your own way.
Chant like a third grader.
Back in the Buddhistblogosphere
5Sometimes we start out with the best of intentions and the best of plans. We get off to a strong start, but then something in our life derails those plans. In my case (I suspect, like many other people), I’m better at starting projects than in seeing them through. But I’m improving. My sitting practice is regular, I regularly sit with a group – all goals that I was very sporadic about for some time.
But with blogging, I found I needed to take a break to keep my sanity during the winter months and the holiday season (also the birthday season in my household). As was the case with some other bloggers I’ve read, I found I had to choose, for a while, between practice and blogging.
I had several posts I had meant to write between October and the New Year: I was finishing one up about meditation, was in the process of writing one about gratitude, wanted to write one about the worst Christmas card I ever received 1, and one about resolutions and goal-setting. But exactly none of these were completed.
In early November, I went on retreat. When I go on retreat, I usually have a small “realization” of some sort. Usually it’s a pretty common-sense realization about something obvious but that I overlook, or read about, but don’t really “get,” like when I used to read about practice = life, but then went around complaining that everyone was interfering with my “practice.” When sitting, it just came over me that everything was practice, and changed my perspective, just a bit, though I still need to remind myself of this all the time. This time, I dawned on me, again, that THIS is IT, and that my life needed attention. I was loving blogging, but that my physical self needed more attention, and my family needed more attention. Since then, I’ve lost those 10 pounds I wanted to lose, am exercising regularly, and feel like I’m taking better care of others, too.
I now feel ready to get back to blogging, but may take it slower with fewer posts, and I may not be able to read and keep up on tweets as much as previously. I had a couple of blogging resolutions 2 for January I’m finally catching up on: to catch up on my twitter followers (done), to post a new header (done), to write a post like this (done), to start posting some quotes again (in process- plan to start Monday), and to edit and finish one of my posts (in process) – and to stay in balance, keep sitting, and keep exercising as I do so.
- I still may do this, but am looking for a way to put this in a Buddhist context ↩
- As it seems that New Year’s resolutions always get broken anyway, I always say my resolution is to “be perfect in every way.” But maybe, in some way, all of us accomplish that. Shunryu Suzuki said something like, “You are all perfect just the way you are, and you could all use a little improvement.” ↩
A Series of Irrational Thoughts
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Sometimes my thoughts take me to the fantasy world of unicorns and fairies instead of down the hole. But whether positive or negative, my fantasy thoughts take me out of the present, and are just as unreal.
In which DukkhaGirl examines the wacky thought processes that send her into deep dukkha…
So, you’re trying to practice Zen. Not just on the cushion, but in everyday life. This is Zen practice, being here and now, right? You’ve probably heard that Zen is not about self-improvement, becoming a “better person”, becoming less anxious, but blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada…this is why you started Zen practice in the first place. You hope that maybe you’ll get to the point where you’re totally in the moment and practice just to practice, but – damnit ! – you have to admit that you became interested in Zen because you saw yourself as a totally messed up person, but had hope that Zen would make you ________________ (fill in the blank – peaceful, tranquil, less anxious, more compassionate, enlightened, happier, hipper, cooler, poetic, totally integrated and actualized…). And maybe you are noticing some “side benefits” of your practice. The people at work note that you are a person who seems calm and takes constant change in relative stride. You yell at your family less. You are able to “just do it” throughout your day without all the resistance you used to have – you still have preferences, but you’re able to do less “picking and choosing” and to just do what needs to be done. You are on the way, right? Next stop enlightenment city?
Think again. This is when it happens. This is my day at work a few days ago. Maybe you are not as neurotic as I am. But just when I think I am starting to rock being in the here and now, a simple word or event can start snowballing into a downward spiral of thoughts which can turn into a pervasive avalanche of delusions. I heard that Carl Jung said that, “Neurosis is the absence of legitimate suffering.” Sometimes when I don’t really have any “legitimate” suffering in my life, it seems I need to drum some up. We like our dramas – even the ones just in our heads. They keep life interesting (maybe), but take us out of the here and now.
What happened is something like this:
At my job we work in “teams” of two primary team members, sometimes with a few other people involved and we are supposed to have a weekly meeting to discuss the “projects” we are working on. However, due to staffing issues with my particular job, I’ve been on many other projects and unable to attend to my primary one. Result: our team has often not been meeting. On the day of our usual meeting this week, I asked my teammate if we were going to meet this week. The response? Something like:
“I don’t really see the point, you’re really not up to date on this project, anyway, but we can meet if you want.”
This was a very realistic, true statement. I wasn’t up to date, and my co-worker would not have benefitted from this meeting. Being very Zen-like and everything, I accepted it with great equanimity and acknowledged the truth of the statement, and agreed that we really didn’t need to meet.
Then a little thought slipped in: “You don’t know what’s going on – and you should…it’s your responsibility.” (Discounting the fact that I’ve been too busy to do other than I’ve done).
Then my monkey mind grabbed hold of that thought and started to swing, and the fun began:
“He thinks I don’t have anything valuable to contribute.” (mind reading)
“Well, you don’t have anything valuable to contribute.”
“Meeting with me would have been a total time-waster…but he probably thinks it always is.”
“He thinks I’m a total airhead!”
“He doesn’t like me.”
“He wishes he had a different team member.”
“Who cares what he thinks!!! Arrogance!” (sour grapes)
“Wow! It’s a wonder that the University of ______ turned out such shining examples of (insert job title here) as me. ” (sarcasm and self-criticism)
“I shouldn’t even be doing this job.”
“I’m an awful person.” (grandiose sweeping statement of self-worth, with sniffling tears beginning to form)
and then…realization of what I was doing. Then the next thought starting to creep in. “Ugh, I’m doing it again…I’m a horrible Zen student!”
But I was able to stop the next rollercoaster ride of thoughts right there.
One little thought led to another and to another until I was making overarching generalizations about myself, my job performance, my self-worth. But here’s the important part – this time I was able to see the bullshit. I was able, at some point, to catch myself and refute the logic of this argument 1. I was able to see the unreality – most of these thoughts were what many of our thoughts are – pure fantasy.
There’s an oft-quoted poem by Portia Nelson about recovery from addiction, that could apply equally to any of our habitual responses to life 2.
There Is a Hole in My Sidewalk
Autobiography in Five Short ChaptersChapter One
I walk down the street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I fall in.
I am lost…I am helpless.
It isn’t my fault.
It takes forever to find a way out.Chapter Two
I walk down the street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I pretend that I don’t see it.
I fall in again.
I can’t believe I am in this same place.
But, it isn’t my fault.
It still takes a long time to get out.Chapter Three
I walk down the same street.
There is a deep whole in the sidewalk.
I see it is there.
I still fall in…it’s a habit…but,
My eyes are open
I know where I am
It is my fault.
I get out immediately,Chapter Four
I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I walk around it.Chapter Five
I walk down another street.
We all have our own particular holes that we fall into. My own particular hole has been this type of thought process that can lead me into the downward spiral of depression. That is — if the thoughts go unquestioned 3. There’s a bumper sticker that says 4, “Don’t believe everything you think.” I’m learning to be aware of when my thoughts are about to drop me down the hole or take me on a wild ride to fantasyland 5…somewhere between chapter two and three.
Is this Zen practice or is this cognitive-behavioral therapy? Maybe some of both. I see the process as similar to when we sit on the cushion and bring our minds back to the present again and again when our thoughts drift off. We begin to be able to catch this drifting off sooner and sooner as it happens instead of getting lost in it. This is training for the multitude of times that we do this when we are off the cushion –catching our attention as it drifts off –whether it be down the hole or fantasyland — and bringing our attention back to the here and now, stopping the series of irrational thoughts that are the cause of much of our dukkha.
- I clearly recall my symbolic logic professor in college telling my future husband not to argue with me because I was, “A whiz at logic…practically a Vulcan!” I loved this, but, strangely my husband does not remember it. Sheesh! No short or long-term memory! ↩
- Sometimes we actually seem to be addicted to certain ways of thinking ↩
- Sometimes it seems easier just to sink into these type of thoughts, but that just keeps us repeating the same patterns over, and over, and over… ↩
- Such a great deal of wisdom is to be found on bumper stickers, but I have to live vicariously here as, unfortunately, my husband is an anti-bumper-sticker guy who won’t let me stick them all over my car. I guess he doesn’t want to drive around inside my brain all the time. ↩
- Sometimes my thoughts go the other direction…off to the fun land of make-believe. It’s more fun, but just as unreal ↩
Nihilism and Buddhism
0This postcard was posted today on PostSecret. “I’m a Nihilist Trapped in a Buddhist Body” (spelling corrected) is a curious statement. Why is this person trapped? What is trapping him (or her)? Why is his body seen as “Buddhist”? Why not just say, “I’m a Nihilist,” instead of clinging to Buddhism if it makes this person feel trapped? I wish I could ask this person for more clarification.
There seems to be a frequent confusion between nihilism – the denial of existence and the absence of meaning, and the Buddhist concept/doctrine of emptiness – the lack of inherent independent existence of things…that is interdependence – often get confused with each other. One concludes in the ideas that nothing matters, the other in the idea that everything matters because everything is connected.
Or maybe this person is encountering doubt – something that I encounter again and again, and I think all of us encounter. Times when our practice seems to just be “going nowhere.” “Why am I doing this?” we might ask, “sitting on this cushion is a big waste of time. Meaningless. I’d be better off ______________(fill in the blank).” In Zen practice we talk about great faith and great doubt both being necessary for awakening – and great determination. It takes great determination to keep going, get on that cushion every day.
I hope this person resolves his inner conflicts in a way that is compassionate toward himself. When we’re feeling trapped, we’re usually the ones trapping ourselves.
OMG! Bodhidharma Action Figure
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Well, I guess it was a matter of time. I came across this when I was searching for information on Bodhidharma Day. You can get Jesus action figures and Freud action figures and, well…now you can get your own Bodhidharma action figure at Triad Toys (preorder for only $119 ???). Looks like he comes complete with his own set of robes, a mala, and sets of hands ready for fighting or gassho – and a set of weapons.
Wild Geese: Separation vs. Connection
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Wild Geese
You do not have to be good.
You do not have to walk on your knees
for a hundred miles through the desert, repenting.
You only have to let the soft animal of your body
love what it loves.
Tell me about despair, yours, and I will tell you mine.
Meanwhile the world goes on.
Meanwhile the sun and the clear pebbles of the rain
are moving across the landscapes,
over the prairies and the deep trees,
the mountains and the rivers.
Meanwhile the wild geese, high in the clean blue air,
are heading home again.
Whoever you are, no matter how lonely,
the world offers itself to your imagination,
calls to you like the wild geese, harsh and exciting–
over and over announcing your place
in the family of things.© Mary Oliver.
You have probably heard this poem before…I first encountered it years ago. Read it in books, encountered it (sometimes misquoted) at UU church services…perhaps it’s oft repeated, but worth repeating. I come back to it again and again…it never fails to move me; sometimes to tears, depending on my mood.
There’s something very Buddhist, very Zen, about this poem.
Life’s not about being “good.” It’s not about sinking into that sense of loneliness, despair, separation we all feel from time to time (in my case, quite often…especially this time of year). You just need to allow, to let be what is. There’s this whole world out there, and you’re part of it! A reminder of the connection we all share—to each other, and to everything.
I find I often have to remind myself of my place in, “the family of things.” I had an odd place in my own family and never quite felt like I was a “real” member of my group of siblings (big age difference meaning I was raised by the same, yet different, parents) and sometimes think this carried over into the rest of my life. I still sometimes feel like an outsider, even though I have a career, a family of my own…I have a great difficulty with joining groups, feeling like part of a sangha. It’s, ironically, much easier for me to feel a strong sense of connection with everything and everyone when I’m alone walking, writing, sitting…than it is when I’m around other people, especially large groups. I’m learning to “just sit” with my sense of anxiety over where I fit. Learning to not run away, even when I start worrying about where my place is, or what other people think of me. Trying to learn to just be myself, just allow, not walk through that desert, repenting (for what, I’m not even sure).
We all are, no matter how lonely, a part of the family of things. We all have a place. This sense of separation we have is, ultimately, an illusion.
Vege and Carnivore: Living in (Relative) Harmony?
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October 1 is World Vegetarian Day
…and I am trying to limit the number of vegetarian posts I do on this blog, but I’ll write one on this “official” vegetarian day. The question is: vegetarians and non-vegetarians living together — can we all just get along? But first, I’ll quickly tackle the issue of whether Buddhists “have to be” vegetarians.
Let’s get this out of the way, right away, for those who are still curious about this: not all Buddhists are vegetarians, nor do all Buddhists have to be vegetarians. There’s a Tibetan teacher in the city where I used to live who, like many Tibetans, ate meat. “Pull a carrot from the ground,” he’d say, pointing out how impossible the precept of not killing is to follow to the letter, “and you are destroying countless organisms.” He didn’t eat a lot of meat – he’d have turkey at Thanksgiving and occasional meat during the week, from what I heard, but there were some students in the area who would not have him as a teacher because of this singular issue.
Traditionally, whether or not Buddhists eat meat has been a cultural issue. In Japan fish was often eaten, and of course, in a harsh northern climate like Tibet, eating meat was necessary for survival. The Buddha told his monks to take what was offered, meat included, unless the animal had been killed specifically for them. There were also some animals that the monks were forbidden to eat 1.
But I’m not living a life of begging. I have access to such plenty that I can eat a highly nutritious diet (if I choose, when those turtle brownie bars – I assure you, they don’t include any real turtles – aren’t calling to me) without needing to eat any meat. I am a vegetarian. I feel strongly that the precept of not killing and concern for the suffering of other beings (both from slaughtering, and from factory farming), suggests a vegetarian diet. And yet, I have had such difficulty in my life in converting to a meat-free diet. Mostly, this has been because of the conflict my vegetarianism has caused me to have with the people around me – both in my family of origin and in my marriage, and my own difficulty dealing with this conflict. I (generally) have not been preachy about my vegetarianism, but I have sometimes found that eating vegetarian has sometimes put me at odds with the people I live with.
My first foray into vegetarianism was in middle or high school, when the idea first popped into my head that if I wouldn’t be comfortable going out and killing an animal myself, I shouldn’t expect someone else to do it for me, nor should I eat the animal. I remember considering whether I should go out and try hunting to see if I could do it 2 – and then realizing that I could never do this. I declared myself vegetarian and got a copy of some macrobiotic cookbooks and Diet for a Small Planet. I tried a few recipes with stuff we had around the house – and found them disgusting. And then I found that my parents were not willing to buy me the special ingredients I thought I needed to accommodate a vegetarian diet. Our meals were based on family-sized casseroles (generally full of meat) and I was to eat what was provided or buy my own. As I had little to not income, I ate what I was provided and my vegetarianism lapsed quickly.
I moved out for a while in college, and became vegetarian, though I was living on poor college student fare — Top Ramen and Kraft mac and cheese. At some point, maybe when I had access to more of a variety of foods, I stopped, craving that big hamburger…even though I knew where it came from.
Then I got married. Fairly young. And I decided to, again, start eating a vegetarian diet. And again, conflict ensued.
This is from passiveagressivenotes.com . I'm vegetarian, but still find this funny, though I understand the reasons why vegetarians might need a support group, while carivores don't!
My husband has many wonderful qualities and is a model husband in many ways. He probably does more than 50% of the household chores so I can manage working, chauffeuring the kids around, sitting zazen, go to yoga class and do things like writing this blog. He says, “I love you,” more than once a day – every day. He’s involved with the kids, has a great sense of humor…the list goes on.
But the mealtimes…Ugh!
The vegetarian dishes I made were evaluated as “side dishes” — after all, “everyone” knows that “real” meals include a meat portion! Look at the food pyramid! He would get up from the table, discard what I had cooked, and turn on the grill to cook up a big steak. I also felt that a big side order of anger was being cooked up along with that steak and being served to me as a “side dish.” He seemed angry that I wasn’t buying him meat, that I wasn’t cooking him meat, “I’m not asking you not to be a vegetarian,” he’d say, “but don’t expect me to become one.” “I’m not trying to force you into becoming a vegetarian,” I’d counter, “but if I’m uncomfortable with eating meat, doesn’t it follow that I shouldn’t be buying and cooking meat?” Both of us trying to defend our own sides. No winners here.
The mealtime arguments finally became too much for me. I caved. I gave up, started cooking (and eating) those French Dip sandwiches and buffalo wings, served up with an unhealthy amount of excuses for my not sticking with my own sense of ethics on this issue, among them:
- I don’t feel right unless I have some meat in my diet.
- When I eat vegetarian, all my “special” products add too much to our grocery bill.
- I’m being unkind by not cooking him meat. I’m being selfish. If I was a “good wife,” I’d do this for him.
- He says that people will always eat meat – what difference will my vegetarianism make?
Let me counter these excuses right now:
- I am vegetarian and feel just fine…though I did have some trouble during the short time I was vegan, and now do eat eggs and milk.
- My “special” products are actually called…FOOD! There is nothing “special” about my tofu, meat substitutes to use in recipes, or extra veggies.
- Is there something selfish about not wanting to contribute to killing animals? I still, occasionally, “selfish” trip myself on this. Am I being rigid, controlling, by refusing to buy or cook what my hubby will buy and cook, anyway? Or is he being selfish for not respecting my choices by getting angry when I don’t buy or cook meat? Or are we both being selfish? Or am I just “clinging to views” too much? Am I over-analyzing this like I tend to over-analyze everything? The questions continue…
- Maybe my vegetarianism will only make a small impact on the world. But if I am vegetarian, I am one more person not eating meat. My mom used to read a picture book to me when I was a kid called, “If Everybody Did.” I haven’t seen the book since I was very small (though it looks like there’s a newer edition around now) and I can’t remember specifics, but it must have made a big impact on me because I kept going back to it when confronted with moral choices during my childhood…and sometimes during my adulthood. It would, for instance, show one person littering…no big deal, right?…and then say, “…but if everyone did…” and show what would happen if everyone had that same attitude and tossed their litter everywhere. Supply and demand. If fewer and fewer people eat meat, goes my reasoning, the fewer and fewer factory farms there will need to be, the fewer animals will be killed.
On top of the serving of excuses was, additionally, a simmering stew of resentment. Because I knew I was lying to myself, wasn’t following my heart. What did Shunryu Suzuki say about fooling yourself? It’s fatal? “No more medicine!” I was fooling myself. These were just excuses for not doing what felt right to me. I also found that my husband liked my meat cookery about as much as he liked my vegetarian cooking, and continued to cook his own stuff instead of coming to the dinner table. The steak was overdone. The chicken was chewy. I swear I did not do this on passive-aggressive purpose. Really.
“I am not keeping you from being vegetarian,” he said again…and I realized he was right.
The only person keeping me from it was me. I was the only one with responsibility for my own behavior, my own choices, regardless of the opinions of people around me about my choices.
So I finally converted back. Conflicts still arise, but I think I do have some perspective on what committed vegetarians and committed non-vegetarians have to do do live in harmony. Some suggestions:
The Non-Vegetarian:
- Though many people adopt a vegetarian diet for health reasons, most of the vegetarians I have met have ethical issues with killing animals 3. Some may have a disgust for handling and cooking meat. Don’t expect your vegetarian to abandon what he/she feels is right to serve your dietary tastes. If you want to eat meat and haven’t learned to cook, learn some cooking skills. But no guilt trips.
- Assess your vegetarian’s sense of humor. She may not think it is funny when you grunt like a caveman and beat your chest and say things like “I man! Need MEAT!” or make jokes about your Brontosaurus ribs 4. Then again, she might laugh and give it right back to you 5.
- Don’t tease your vegetarian for what he/she cooks. Don’t look at every meal, call it a “side dish” and suggest that it would be really, really, good if only it had..say…steak or some pork fat.
The Vegetarian:
- Don’t lecture your non-vegetarian all the time. He or she likely knows all the arguments for vegetarianism – has heard them before – and will get tired of hearing them again and again. Don’t suggest that he or she does not care about animals or about the world…likely your omnivore does not agree that eating animals is wrong or harmful. Have you ever been annoyed by a proselytizer? Imagine living with one!
- Don’t insult your omnivore at mealtimes. Don’t make faces at that big steak, and make incessant comments about dead animal flesh while he/she is eating. Don’t sit around and ask your omnivore questions like, “What about Fido? Would you eat him? He’s an animal!!!” 6.
Both:
- Do try to eat meals together, at least sometimes, and especially if you have kids. I’d like to more often, but it’s difficult with varying schedules and when everyone wants to eat something different. But I think having meals together is a family bonding experience, and I’ve been sad that we often can’t seem to eat together because of different schedules, meal times, and preferences (and other issues over cooking and cleaning styles I won’t go into here).
- Don’t bad-mouth your partner or spouse’s dietary habits to your kids. Do let them know why you make the choices you make.
- Discussions are good. Just approach discussions with a mutual sense of respect for the other’s opinion and be open to listening. So often we get so fixed on our opinions that we render ourselves unable to really listen. In my case, we’re still working on this…but my spouse has quit requesting that I buy or cook him meat. I’ve put aside (most of) my hurt feelings when he refuses to even try my latest vegetarian experiment (many of them very good and giving me a new joy in cooking that I haven’t had for a long time). I try not to lecture, and he tries not to get grouchy at the latest tofu-seitan-gardein thing. But we’re doing better and I think are proving that vegetarians and non-vegetarians can live in (relative) harmony.
- One place on the web you can find some of these rules is at http://www.hinduwebsite.com/buddhism/vegetarianism.asp ↩
- A funny image as, at the time, I was kind of a hair and makeup girl, I can just envision myself running through the woods in my heels. ↩
- Though I know one woman who is a vegetarian who makes it quite clear that she just doesn’t like meat. “I hate animals,” she says, “Just HATE them. I just don’t like how meat tastes.” She is the exception ↩
- Young whippersnapper! You don’t remember “The Flintstones”? ↩
- This also goes, in reverse, for you meat-eating women joking in the reverse with your veg husbands ↩
- The reply to this one was no, he didn’t eat dogs because, “In our society they’re pets, and we don’t eat them…but our bunnies outside look awfully tasty!” The book Eating Animals by Jonathan Safer Foer (very good) includes a recipe for Dog Stew – probably to get the same kind of reaction I was trying to get. ↩

